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		<title>By: scented crystals</title>
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		<title>By: imovie 08 sucks download imovie 06 - Web - WebCrawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>imovie 08 sucks download imovie 06 - Web - WebCrawler</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The One</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;360&quot;]I edited 3 short school movies on iMovieHD, and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to figure the program out. I use background music fading in and out as the kids talk.
Now this new iMovie cannot do that easily, or maybe cannot do it at all.  I am very frustrated..
Once I watched the tutorial video, the program is quite easy to use otherwise.
I like the way it lists the &quot;events&quot;, and very easy to move and organize the clips...but that audio thing is very annoying.

I have the new Final Cut Express, that I never used before, but for this particular project I am doing now, it would have been time consuming to import the clips, so I decided to start to relearn iMovie. Also, I don&#039;t like the idea, that for titles and audio I have to go outside of the program.

Anyway, Have you figured out a solution for iMovie&#039;s audio yet?
Also, do you thing Soundtrak could be integrated with iMovie...

thanks for any info:
my e-mail is
falucskai@sbcglobal.net
susie
This new [quote comment=&quot;&quot;]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] and we also know that iMovie has been revamped.I need not say more, for my opinions can be found on these websites.What do you think?  &#9001;&#9001;&#9001; my website &#9002;&#9002;&#9002;

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[quote comment=&quot;29&quot;]&quot;Also, making iMovie HD and iMovie ‘08 two separate apps would just confuse people.&quot;

Ummm...they ARE!

I&#039;ve been using a Mac since the days of PageMaker Version 1, and I&#039;ve never seen a more egregious example of Mac zealotry than I&#039;m witnessing here. People--they left out CHAPTER STOPS, for crying out loud! What good is iDVD? Oh, that&#039;s right: King Steve says &quot;some people still like to make DVDs&quot;, as though it&#039;s an antiquated technology not worthy of his attention.

I&#039;ve never seen Apple take so many features OUT of a product with a new revision. Those of us that really use all the features of iMovie HD understand just how much of a mess this new version is.

And using an old version is not the answer, either. iLife apps tend to be very tightly integrated, and you can bet Apple won&#039;t support iMovie HD anywhere near as well as this new hobbled disappointment.

And to &quot;nate&quot;, who quoted Apple thusly: &quot;adjust the audio levels for each clip to give your movie a consistent, comfortable volume.&quot;, that&#039;s exactly the problem. I need to be able to edit audio WITHIN the clip. I could give you examples, but it would be pointless. Bottom line the fact that instead of three audio clips with adjustable volumes we now have (essentially) one with the ability to only adjust globally for the whole clip--that&#039;s ridiculous.

Anyway. I won&#039;t convince the casual user. But this is a mess, sorry.[/quote][/quote]
[quote comment=&quot;&quot;]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] and we also know that iMovie has been revamped.I need not say more, for my opinions can be found on these websites.What do you think?  &#9001;&#9001;&#9001; my website &#9002;&#9002;&#9002;

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Um, why not use the previous iMovie HD?

-The One</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="360"]I edited 3 short school movies on iMovieHD, and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to figure the program out. I use background music fading in and out as the kids talk.<br />
Now this new iMovie cannot do that easily, or maybe cannot do it at all.  I am very frustrated..<br />
Once I watched the tutorial video, the program is quite easy to use otherwise.<br />
I like the way it lists the &#8220;events&#8221;, and very easy to move and organize the clips&#8230;but that audio thing is very annoying.</p>
<p>I have the new Final Cut Express, that I never used before, but for this particular project I am doing now, it would have been time consuming to import the clips, so I decided to start to relearn iMovie. Also, I don&#8217;t like the idea, that for titles and audio I have to go outside of the program.</p>
<p>Anyway, Have you figured out a solution for iMovie&#8217;s audio yet?<br />
Also, do you thing Soundtrak could be integrated with iMovie&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks for any info:<br />
my e-mail is<br />
<a href="mailto:falucskai@sbcglobal.net">falucskai@sbcglobal.net</a><br />
susie<br />
This new [quote comment=""]<a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://penguinsounds.org/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] and we also know that iMovie has been revamped.I need not say more, for my opinions can be found on these websites.What do you think?  &#9001;&#9001;&#9001; my website &#9002;&#9002;&#9002;</p>
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[quote comment="29"]&#8220;Also, making iMovie HD and iMovie ‘08 two separate apps would just confuse people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;they ARE!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using a Mac since the days of PageMaker Version 1, and I&#8217;ve never seen a more egregious example of Mac zealotry than I&#8217;m witnessing here. People&#8211;they left out CHAPTER STOPS, for crying out loud! What good is iDVD? Oh, that&#8217;s right: King Steve says &#8220;some people still like to make DVDs&#8221;, as though it&#8217;s an antiquated technology not worthy of his attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen Apple take so many features OUT of a product with a new revision. Those of us that really use all the features of iMovie HD understand just how much of a mess this new version is.</p>
<p>And using an old version is not the answer, either. iLife apps tend to be very tightly integrated, and you can bet Apple won&#8217;t support iMovie HD anywhere near as well as this new hobbled disappointment.</p>
<p>And to &#8220;nate&#8221;, who quoted Apple thusly: &#8220;adjust the audio levels for each clip to give your movie a consistent, comfortable volume.&#8221;, that&#8217;s exactly the problem. I need to be able to edit audio WITHIN the clip. I could give you examples, but it would be pointless. Bottom line the fact that instead of three audio clips with adjustable volumes we now have (essentially) one with the ability to only adjust globally for the whole clip&#8211;that&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>Anyway. I won&#8217;t convince the casual user. But this is a mess, sorry.[/quote][/quote]<br />
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<p>Um, why not use the previous iMovie HD?</p>
<p>-The One</p>
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		<title>By: S.Denes</title>
		<link>http://penguinsounds.org/2007/08/07/imovie-08-trepidations/comment-page-2/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>S.Denes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I edited 3 short school movies on iMovieHD, and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to figure the program out. I use background music fading in and out as the kids talk.  
Now this new iMovie cannot do that easily, or maybe cannot do it at all.  I am very frustrated.. 
Once I watched the tutorial video, the program is quite easy to use otherwise.
I like the way it lists the &quot;events&quot;, and very easy to move and organize the clips...but that audio thing is very annoying. 

I have the new Final Cut Express, that I never used before, but for this particular project I am doing now, it would have been time consuming to import the clips, so I decided to start to relearn iMovie. Also, I don&#039;t like the idea, that for titles and audio I have to go outside of the program.

Anyway, Have you figured out a solution for iMovie&#039;s audio yet?
Also, do you thing Soundtrak could be integrated with iMovie...

thanks for any info:
my e-mail is 
falucskai@sbcglobal.net
susie
This new [quote comment=&quot;&quot;]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] and we also know that iMovie has been revamped.I need not say more, for my opinions can be found on these websites.What do you think?  &#9001;&#9001;&#9001; my website &#9002;&#9002;&#9002;

Offline [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;[/quote]
[quote comment=&quot;29&quot;]&quot;Also, making iMovie HD and iMovie ‘08 two separate apps would just confuse people.&quot;

Ummm...they ARE!

I&#039;ve been using a Mac since the days of PageMaker Version 1, and I&#039;ve never seen a more egregious example of Mac zealotry than I&#039;m witnessing here. People--they left out CHAPTER STOPS, for crying out loud! What good is iDVD? Oh, that&#039;s right: King Steve says &quot;some people still like to make DVDs&quot;, as though it&#039;s an antiquated technology not worthy of his attention.

I&#039;ve never seen Apple take so many features OUT of a product with a new revision. Those of us that really use all the features of iMovie HD understand just how much of a mess this new version is.

And using an old version is not the answer, either. iLife apps tend to be very tightly integrated, and you can bet Apple won&#039;t support iMovie HD anywhere near as well as this new hobbled disappointment.

And to &quot;nate&quot;, who quoted Apple thusly: &quot;adjust the audio levels for each clip to give your movie a consistent, comfortable volume.&quot;, that&#039;s exactly the problem. I need to be able to edit audio WITHIN the clip. I could give you examples, but it would be pointless. Bottom line the fact that instead of three audio clips with adjustable volumes we now have (essentially) one with the ability to only adjust globally for the whole clip--that&#039;s ridiculous.

Anyway. I won&#039;t convince the casual user. But this is a mess, sorry.[/quote]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I edited 3 short school movies on iMovieHD, and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to figure the program out. I use background music fading in and out as the kids talk.<br />
Now this new iMovie cannot do that easily, or maybe cannot do it at all.  I am very frustrated..<br />
Once I watched the tutorial video, the program is quite easy to use otherwise.<br />
I like the way it lists the &#8220;events&#8221;, and very easy to move and organize the clips&#8230;but that audio thing is very annoying. </p>
<p>I have the new Final Cut Express, that I never used before, but for this particular project I am doing now, it would have been time consuming to import the clips, so I decided to start to relearn iMovie. Also, I don&#8217;t like the idea, that for titles and audio I have to go outside of the program.</p>
<p>Anyway, Have you figured out a solution for iMovie&#8217;s audio yet?<br />
Also, do you thing Soundtrak could be integrated with iMovie&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks for any info:<br />
my e-mail is<br />
<a href="mailto:falucskai@sbcglobal.net">falucskai@sbcglobal.net</a><br />
susie<br />
This new [quote comment=""]<a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://penguinsounds.org/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] and we also know that iMovie has been revamped.I need not say more, for my opinions can be found on these websites.What do you think?  &#9001;&#9001;&#9001; my website &#9002;&#9002;&#9002;</p>
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[quote comment="29"]&#8220;Also, making iMovie HD and iMovie ‘08 two separate apps would just confuse people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;they ARE!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using a Mac since the days of PageMaker Version 1, and I&#8217;ve never seen a more egregious example of Mac zealotry than I&#8217;m witnessing here. People&#8211;they left out CHAPTER STOPS, for crying out loud! What good is iDVD? Oh, that&#8217;s right: King Steve says &#8220;some people still like to make DVDs&#8221;, as though it&#8217;s an antiquated technology not worthy of his attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen Apple take so many features OUT of a product with a new revision. Those of us that really use all the features of iMovie HD understand just how much of a mess this new version is.</p>
<p>And using an old version is not the answer, either. iLife apps tend to be very tightly integrated, and you can bet Apple won&#8217;t support iMovie HD anywhere near as well as this new hobbled disappointment.</p>
<p>And to &#8220;nate&#8221;, who quoted Apple thusly: &#8220;adjust the audio levels for each clip to give your movie a consistent, comfortable volume.&#8221;, that&#8217;s exactly the problem. I need to be able to edit audio WITHIN the clip. I could give you examples, but it would be pointless. Bottom line the fact that instead of three audio clips with adjustable volumes we now have (essentially) one with the ability to only adjust globally for the whole clip&#8211;that&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>Anyway. I won&#8217;t convince the casual user. But this is a mess, sorry.[/quote]</p>
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		<title>By: MacHeist &#187; Forums &#187; iMovie '08 Controversy</title>
		<link>http://penguinsounds.org/2007/08/07/imovie-08-trepidations/comment-page-2/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>MacHeist &#187; Forums &#187; iMovie '08 Controversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] and we also know that iMovie has been revamped.I need not say more, for my opinions can be found on these websites.What do you think?  &#9001;&#9001;&#9001; my website &#9002;&#9002;&#9002;   Offline [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: SyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been tempted to throw my mac out of the window.....I am so disillusioned with them at the mo.  First I had ilife08 installed and that has made any transfer from imovieHD06 to idvd impossible as it tells me that i have missing clips and then it tells me that my itune songs are not authorised!!  If anyone has any advice, I&#039;d be grateful (or the MAC gets it!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been tempted to throw my mac out of the window&#8230;..I am so disillusioned with them at the mo.  First I had ilife08 installed and that has made any transfer from imovieHD06 to idvd impossible as it tells me that i have missing clips and then it tells me that my itune songs are not authorised!!  If anyone has any advice, I&#8217;d be grateful (or the MAC gets it!)</p>
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		<title>By: captain_taybin: stop motion movie</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_taybin: stop motion movie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] on a swingset in Boston. Just an interlude piece.The new iMovie &#039;08 still sucks. I posted about it here, where it got picked up by John Gruber and ended up with almost one hundred comments and USA Today [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://penguinsounds.org/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] on a swingset in Boston. Just an interlude piece.The new iMovie &#8217;08 still sucks. I posted about it here, where it got picked up by John Gruber and ended up with almost one hundred comments and USA Today [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Connolly</title>
		<link>http://penguinsounds.org/2007/08/07/imovie-08-trepidations/comment-page-2/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, back to &quot;iLife &#039;08&quot;. All of the applications, excluding &quot;iMovie &#039;08&quot; are worth the price, and it would be interesting to use both &quot;iMovie &#039;08&quot; and &quot;iMovie HD &#039;06&quot;. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and can both be used to one&#039;s advantage.

-The One[/quote]

It&#039;s not worth the price if it doesn&#039;t do what you want it to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, back to &#8220;iLife &#8217;08&#8243;. All of the applications, excluding &#8220;iMovie &#8217;08&#8243; are worth the price, and it would be interesting to use both &#8220;iMovie &#8217;08&#8243; and &#8220;iMovie HD &#8217;06&#8243;. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and can both be used to one&#8217;s advantage.</p>
<p>-The One[/quote]</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not worth the price if it doesn&#8217;t do what you want it to.</p>
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		<title>By: The One</title>
		<link>http://penguinsounds.org/2007/08/07/imovie-08-trepidations/comment-page-2/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>The One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;104&quot;][quote comment=&quot;19&quot;]sheesh! just use &#039;06.[/quote]

[quote post=&quot;46&quot;]Yeah, well, most of us didn&#039;t go spend 80 bucks so that we could use the version of iMovie that we already had, genius. As much as I want to give up my money for absolutely nothing...[/quote]


The other applications, besides &quot;iMovie &#039;08&quot;, are worth the $79. Oh, how I wish I had the new version of GarageBand! :( I do, luckily, have &quot;iWork &#039;08&quot;, which offers WAY more features than Office has and ever will at only $79!

The next version of &quot;Microsoft Office for Mac&quot; is expected to be priced between $150-$500, and yet it contains less features! ARE THEY MAD?

But, back to &quot;iLife &#039;08&quot;. All of the applications, excluding &quot;iMovie &#039;08&quot; are worth the price, and it would be interesting to use both &quot;iMovie &#039;08&quot; and &quot;iMovie HD &#039;06&quot;. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and can both be used to one&#039;s advantage.

-The One</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="104"][quote comment="19"]sheesh! just use &#8217;06.[/quote]</p>
<p>[quote post="46"]Yeah, well, most of us didn&#8217;t go spend 80 bucks so that we could use the version of iMovie that we already had, genius. As much as I want to give up my money for absolutely nothing&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>The other applications, besides &#8220;iMovie &#8217;08&#8243;, are worth the $79. Oh, how I wish I had the new version of GarageBand! <img src='http://penguinsounds.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I do, luckily, have &#8220;iWork &#8217;08&#8243;, which offers WAY more features than Office has and ever will at only $79!</p>
<p>The next version of &#8220;Microsoft Office for Mac&#8221; is expected to be priced between $150-$500, and yet it contains less features! ARE THEY MAD?</p>
<p>But, back to &#8220;iLife &#8217;08&#8243;. All of the applications, excluding &#8220;iMovie &#8217;08&#8243; are worth the price, and it would be interesting to use both &#8220;iMovie &#8217;08&#8243; and &#8220;iMovie HD &#8217;06&#8243;. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and can both be used to one&#8217;s advantage.</p>
<p>-The One</p>
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		<title>By: Jack O'B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack O'B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19&quot;]sheesh! just use &#039;06.[/quote]


Yeah, well, most of us didn&#039;t go spend 80 bucks so that we could use the version of iMovie that we already had, genius. As much as I want to give up my money for absolutely nothing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="19"]sheesh! just use &#8217;06.[/quote]</p>
<p>Yeah, well, most of us didn&#8217;t go spend 80 bucks so that we could use the version of iMovie that we already had, genius. As much as I want to give up my money for absolutely nothing&#8230;</p>
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